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Tony Kelman

A teacher of mine in high school once said, "you can make statistics say anything you want them to." Sure, there are optimistic numbers, pessimistic numbers, and uncertainties in all of them. It's a shame how rarely all of that is mentioned when big bucks hinge on the argument.

The numbers I've seen seem to indicate battery electric is the efficiency winner, though probably within the margin of optimism. Economics versus emissions is another matter entirely though, even the Tesla Roadster doesn't seem to help much with carbon use when you consider cheap, grid-average electricity.

Therein lies the problem. It's expensive to be green NOW. 100K (substantially due to the batteries that give it useful range and power) for the car that can potentially run carbonless, plus the operating cost premium for the renewable energy to do it. That's now though... look at the people you see doing electric cars and rooftop solar. They're not doing it because it's what the government funds (subsidies help solar when you're using it, but not much when you're doing development), they're doing it because it will, in the very near future, make great business. Plus the green aspect has a nice feel-good factor.

Hirsch

It is disappointing to see that there is a bit of attacking between the different technologies.

I wonder what would happen if there was a company that put out an electric car without the power source but enough space for people to install their own.

The idea would be is here is a car.
The owner would decide whether they want to use batteries, or a hyrogen fuel cell, or a gas engine.

The producer would deliver to your location and/or give you the space for you to add in your own source.

This would allow for a market of a few people who can then be the producer/installers of whichever system the owner wanted to use.

The company making the base would have a bit of work the machine should be based upon the RMI Hypercar concept. They would need to get it to be road worthy.

Who could be in a position to actually make this?

Jim Robb

I converted a VW bug to electric in 1993, and I know first-hand the limitations budget can have on vehicle range. I took the nickel-dime approach and purchased the minimum number of batteries. But at the same time a friend did a conversion on an escort a with a $9000 budget and his vehicle was able to complete over 35,000 miles at highway speeds (55 mile round-trip) on regular lead-acid batteries. The technology was available in the 90's as it was in the 1890's. What is missing is the market and the mindset.

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